On one side, you've got the Psychedelic Mysticism route. I've personally run several psilocybin ceremonies and a couple of DMT sessions. The subjective data is undeniable. During a peak, the boundary between "me" and "the universe" just dissolves. It feels like my awareness is everywhere at once, not trapped in my skull. The pros are obvious: you get immediate, visceral evidence of non-locality. It shifts your worldview permanently. But the cons? It's all anecdotal. You can't really use a trip as hard proof in a scientific court. Critics will always say it's just a chemical hallucination or a breakdown of ego boundaries, not actual non-local consciousness.

On the other side, we have Quantum Physics Models, specifically looking at theories like Orchestrated objective reduction proposed by Sir Roger Penrose and Stuart Hameroff. They suggest consciousness arises from quantum computations in microtubules, potentially linking mind to the fabric of spacetime. The pros here are that it's a rigorous attempt to bridge the gap using math and biology, not just feelings. It offers a mechanism. However, the cons are steep. Mainstream physics is super skeptical of Orch-OR. The brain might be too "warm and wet" for quantum coherence, and it's incredibly hard to test empirically.

So, which one actually works? Personally, I'm leaning towards the Psychedelic Mysticism approach as the primary indicator, even if it lacks "proof." Why? Because physics models are just theories until tested, and right now, the direct experience of non-locality in altered states is the strongest signal we have. The feeling of merging with a universal mind isn't just a metaphor for me; it's data. If consciousness is truly non-local, psychedelics might be the only tool we have to "tune" our brain to that frequency. Science is lagging behind the experience.

That said, I'd love the Quantum Physics side to catch up so we can validate what the shamans are saying.

Curious to hear from you all. Do you trust the raw experience of the substances, or do you need the cold hard math before you buy into non-local consciousness? What's your take on whether "Can psychedelics prove consciousness is non-local?" or is that a flawed question?